[00:00:03] Meghan Kinsey: I want to hire really good people and then let them do them. Because why do I want to go in and kind of micromanage it? Like, I've got Robin who's Pilates based and a former ballerina, you're gonna feel that in her class. I've gotten a doctor and physical therapy.
[00:00:29] PODCAST INTRO: Welcome to “In The RACK” podcast, where we provide you with the practical framework for breaking PRs in all facets of health and wellness. We are just a couple of bros giving you the simple house in a world of complex wants. No filters, no scripts, no rules, just straight talk, talk tune. Now, let's get into the rack with your hosts, Dr. Chad and Dr. Nick.
[00:00:55] Chad: Alright, everyone. Welcome to “Episode 08” of “In The RACK” podcast. I'm your host, Chad. And with me is my co-host and fellow physical therapist, Nick. And we also have a special guest with us today. This special guest is Meghan Kinsey. For all of you that don't know Meghan Kinsey, she is the owner, lead instructor and nutrition coach at her studio in Amesbury, Massachusetts called “Motivate”. And she is an amazing woman, she is also a very big ball of energy, kind of like I talked about in the last episode. So we're gonna have a lot of good laughs today. And we're just excited just to learn more about Meghan learn more about her journey and kind of see if we can learn more from each other from this whole conversation. So it's gonna get interesting. So why don't you introduce yourself Meghan, give us a little introduction about yourself there.
[00:01:48] Meghan Kinsey: You guys are two my favorite people. As you don’t know, I pretend to have injuries every so often. So, Hi, everyone. I am Meghan Kinsey, I'm going to start talking like this. So where do I start? I always start with a family. Probably because I consider how I prioritize my life. My family is first so relative to my family. I am wife of Brent Kinsey. Gosh, we just hit 21 years. I know wedded bliss. Love is about people. You have to wake up every day and decide, what else let's see. I'm a mother to three fantastic teenage sons and I can't believe they're all teenagers now. The eldest, Christian, is off to college in less than two weeks Sophie start going off and discuss that if you hear me cry. That's really hard for me. My middle guy is, Gabriel. He's a rising senior at Newburyport High School. And then I've Asher, he takes up the back end going because a freshman at the high school too. And I live in Newburyport and my studios in Amesbury formerly in Newburyport. But we do ad site classes in a report still, and I'm just happy go lucky kind of girl.
[00:03:16] Chad: Oh yes, you are. So what's the so I was actually just at your, your son Christian graduation party, and we were talking about how we first met. I don't remember how you first met Nick and Alicia. But I remember when we first met the conversation got off to a pretty interesting start. And I was like, “Oh, this is how this is gonna go”. So I got to learn all about Meghan in about 15 seconds. So it was great. It was great for everybody but we have a lot of fun. So why don't you kind of just talk about what got you into the fitness and all that like what was that the driving force for you?
[00:04:00] Meghan Kinsey: And what you're talking about, I call that wiziwig. You remember, I'm older than these two guys. This happened with computers and you would kind of create something it was called “What You See Is What You Get” I don't know it's kind of computer term. And that's kind of how I roll in life like you're going to know about me pretty quickly for better or for worse.
[00:04:16] Chad: This is true.
[00:04:17] Meghan Kinsey: Some people run the other way. Hopefully not too many. So I've always been very difficult active answer my pants probably got an average of a ‘D’ often in conduct in my Catholic High School. I was always moving. I can very well be undiagnosed add we have no idea yet.
[00:04:39] Chad: You definitely have and I’m not a doctor.
[00:04:42] Nick: Or this is really how people are supposed to be and you're just the normal and everyone else is just really tired, and that could be it.
[00:04:49] Meghan Kinsey: Alicia is a lucky girl.
[00:04:53] Chad: She is a lucky girl. My wife even says that.
[00:04:59] Meghan Kinsey: So I'm the oldest of four girls, which is kind of fun to have three sons now, and very physical moving all the time. Gotten athletics right away and whatever I could possibly do some team soccer or softball, whatever that was offered in the hometown. I got more, I would say dedicated to my athletic pursuits in high school. I ran cross country and track and without even realizing it was pretty much up my alley, we didn't really well, I'm a New Jersey girl, which probably also plays into the fact that I talk fast and maybe a little too strong sometimes.
[00:05:41] Nick: He didn’t say that.
[00:05:43] Chad: It was a mic malfunction.
[00:05:46] Nick: So his mic is dirty.
[00:05:47] Chad: That's what it is. I was just cleaning it.
[00:05:51] Meghan Kinsey: I have a very broad sense of humor. So anyway, I ran cross country and we did really well. We have, we had a bunch of state championships and my Catholic high school, I made what's called South Jersey for three or sophomore, junior and senior year, which means the top 10 runners in the South Jersey and I was into it. I just loved my parents were into me being athletic. And even my jobs are like lawn mowing, I just cut people's lawns and paper, I guess not stereotypical for, I guess, a young girl. But I kind of like that swimming upstream. So I was very in that regard. When I got done all of that from high school, I went into college doing it, I got a lot of this injury, that was such a pain in the butt. And it was just, I didn't have you guys in my life. And it was so tedious. And just like just going down this path that was just all about fixing it, I was like this is done. So I stopped. After that I was bummed around doing different stuff. With every birth of each kid, I probably got more into health and wellness, when I decided I was going to be a mom, which I already knew is going to be. But there's something about preparing my body to be a vessel that really just rang true with me. So I started paying attention more to health to wellness in general to exercise, and then bringing my body back each time. I took on a different pursuit each time. I think the first time was “Body Pump”. Second time was “Spinning”, I would get very one kind of exercise modality for whatever reason after each kid. The third one is when I found bar, which is he's now 14. And that was just like I was hooked. I felt places in my body. I didn't even know I had the posture. , I breastfed for five plus years in a row. So I felt like my normal posture was rounded and I built that standing up felt like work and the components of postural that it just was stuck in they've never left it. So that's kind of how I segwayed into teaching because I was taking classes and the instructor was like, “No, you're actually pretty decent that you wanna become an instructor”. She just opened the studio and she was solo. She was just training like one or two others. What, and at the same time was becoming a childbirth instructor. I really get down to birth in three boys all natural, this kind of almost seeing that as an athletic pursuit. A big Mind Body Spirit one. I remember being birthing Christian 19 years ago. And at the end of life, we are freaking awesome. This body is freaking Stuller. I couldn't get over it. And my husband was there with it. Like he was we were both trained in what's called the Bradley method. So he became my coach. And that's what I became certified to do is teach Bradley method. And it was just that human body's stunning.
[00:08:35] Chad: It's pretty amazing, for sure. So that's pretty wild. I didn't know that actually about you see, see what happens. I love this.
[00:08:43] Nick: That's really cool too, that you talk about an athletic approach to the whole, both pregnancy as well as the childbirth experience because I feel most people especially in the US, we just look at that as very passive. Obviously, when you are giving birth that's very active situation. But I feel like the nine months leading up to that everyone thinks of it as just being passive. There's unpleasantries but people don't think of it as being active. That's really cool that you've had that perspective on that.
[00:09:16] Meghan Kinsey: I think it helped the whole process the growth mindset to getting pregnant and growing a baby talk about I know you're a pretty decent bodybuilder. But I was the ultimate bodybuilder.
[00:09:28] Chad: Oh, for sure. I couldn't birth kids. I'm not that strong. No way.
[00:09:31] Meghan Kinsey: So anyway, and then on the bar, we never left bar since.
[00:09:37] Nick: Chad and I are just a facade. We're all in the house on the external. Actually, that's strong in the inside.
[00:09:44] Chad: That's so true. We look strong, but we're really not. That's our MO, for sure.
[00:09:49] Nick: So when did you open “Motivate”?
[00:09:52] Meghan Kinsey: Oh, 2015.
[00:09:55] Nick: So 2015 you opened it as a bar studio?
[00:09:57] Meghan Kinsey: With some cardio. I knew I knew that, just like balancing your plate in regards to food choices, you need to balance your body. And you can get your heart rate up pretty nicely and bar, but not as much as you can assume. We have a cardio modality. So bar and cardio, then move some cycle into it, then a little bit of strength, but being in the studio neighborhood, it was really hard, didn't have the room for it. I always knew I wanted to grow into a bigger space COVID kind of forced the issue. So we took on a significantly bigger space and Amesbury and then was, was able to build more of a strength and Metcon class offering in addition to cardio and the bar, and then nutrition really took off as well.
[00:10:40] Nick: Nice. So very comprehensive approach over there. When was that a one day kind of click that you wanted to make this comprehensive culture of health and wellness, or was it very gradual progression over time?
[00:10:58] Meghan Kinsey: I would probably say that my heart of hearts, I knew where I wanted to eventually go. I just knew I needed to do it in a way that made sense to get certified and train myself accordingly. The health and nutrition components really came in because and when you're teaching, I'm a teacher by trade, that's my master's is actually in education. When I moved up from the South Jersey, Philadelphia area, I was just finishing my grad degree, and I became a classroom teacher in Chelsea, Massachusetts. So you really hone in on those skills. And when you're teaching people, it's not just like, I'm up here doing something, you're gonna follow me. There's a lot of. I'm gonna make sure I'm cueing visually, and auditorily, and bodily kinesthetically. And I'm gonna be, and then I'm also just kind of narrating at times, why are we doing what we're doing? And then how do you support what we're doing here with habits outside of here. So that you're not just like there's that phrase, that cliche that you can't out exercise your fork, it's so true. And I wanted to make sure I was supporting my clients that way. And then I was realizing I'm just talking kind of essentially out of my scope of practice in a sense, I'm like, “Well, let's go fix that”. I think I called you guys and said, “Which one are you doing?”
[00:12:12] Chad: I think so. That's true.
[00:12:15] Meghan Kinsey: That was precision nutrition. Guess what the irony is, guess what I just finished today. I just finished my last checkbox to certify as Institute for Integrative Nutrition which is broadens it even further and more other columns have more of a health coach than a nutrition.
[00:12:31] Chad: I think that's kind of like the way that anyways, I think just focusing on one thing, you're really not giving everybody what they need. It's kind of providing them with a disservice. Because there's so much that goes along with nutrition. It's just not nutrition. I think health coaches definitely the way, for sure.
[00:12:49] Meghan Kinsey: What's on people's plates is often a result of everything else going on their life totally, or not going on in their life.
[00:12:57] Nick: So in that regard, what's one big fat aside from the exercise, you've kind of nailed down the exercise piece, the nutrition piece was one big area you focus on outside of those two realms with your clients, what would you say?
[00:13:09] Meghan Kinsey: In the broader sense of health?
[00:13:12] Nick: It could either be something very specific or broad, but outside of specific to their nutrition and dietary intake and their physical activity?
[00:13:22] Meghan Kinsey: I funny someone actually was asking what do you do as a health coach, and out of nowhere out of my mouth came and actually put this on Instagram? Because I thought everyone deserves to kind of hear it this way. It's like a self-love coach. It just sounds weird.
[00:13:41] Chad: Well, first, this is nutrition coaching.
[00:13:43] Meghan Kinsey: You get this relationship that's being built especially with a one to one. I am building a group coaching program too.
[00:13:53] Chad: I didn't know if you're doing something on top of that.
[00:13:55] Meghan Kinsey: I think it makes it more accessible for people, cost wise alone in a group, but there's also the accountability piece. And there's also just as other people talk, you're gonna learn and glean something from them that I might not be able to bring to the table. So it offers people yet another opportunity. But when you're doing one on one coaching, I am listening and listening and listening. And when people had to their practitioners, that's not necessarily the case, maybe a therapist is probably the closest to it. And people really do know deep down what they need to do there. Maybe it's not. It's maybe in their subconscious. But once you start kind of recognizing, al, like, what is this really about? What's the big overarching goal to make it bigger than just weight loss? Weight loss is a big goal. Don't get me wrong, I love to be able to support that. But sometimes there's other stuff that comes along. I joke that one minute we're talking about butter, and the next minute, we're talking about boundaries, but it really does go off into tangents. And then from there we maybe there's another goal that's laid out. And then we break that down into action items, workable action items, and then we timeline it. And then on the accountability partner, if there's roadblocks that we discover in the way, let's figure out how to get up and around this, but it's us together, which is really nice. I cry all the time with my clients, because it's like an emotional journey.
[00:15:19] Chad: Of course, and they probably feel too, I'm sure.
[00:15:22] Meghan Kinsey: I'm an empathy, I suppose. So there's moments when I'm like, “I get done a session”. I'm like, “I gotta clean myself off energetically”, in a way, because I'm like, “I gotta be present for the next person”. But it's good. I love helping people. And then when they get to there, the weight loss maybe happened but they found out that they became a better parent, or I love it when the husband start losing weight with them.
[00:15:47] Chad: For sure. And that makes a huge difference when your spouse or whatever, can your significant other can be a part of that. You're holding each other accountable.
[00:15:57] Meghan Kinsey: And then your family benefits. And then they get more energy for work and play improve sex life.
[00:16:05] Chad: And the kids get pissed because they have to eat healthy too. I get it.
[00:16:11] Meghan Kinsey: This is health coach. I don't like her, like my goldfish are gone.
[00:16:14] Chad: Fire her. Get her out of here. So we kind of bounce back into the bar thing. And I know you and I've talked about this many times. But is there a difference between because I know a lot of the people that are listening might not know what bar is. So is there a difference between like traditional bar and like bar that you would see it motivate? I know that could be a long question.
[00:16:38] Meghan Kinsey: I'll try to make it because people are like, whatever. Just give me the exercise. So it's been around its roots are in so many milady burke, I won't get the whole history. But it's kind of almost created for her purposes to get better. She was injured. And she kind of took this yoga, pilates, orthopedic action, I've done stuff in class, if you'd like to do that in PT, the ballet components, she was a ballerina. So she brought that in there. It's a lot of the postural pieces. In its essence, it did have sort of an original format, and have people mark did along the way. Sure, definitely. I think as we learn more, we get better. So that's a good thing. That is my problem. That was my phone. Did you hear that?
[00:17:30] Chad: It’s okay.
[00:17:32] Meghan Kinsey: That's why we say that to the studio. But people need to have their phones for emergencies and I get it. We meet people where they are in any way, shape, or form. So let's see, when we teach, “Motivate.” Well, first of all, let me back up from an owner standpoint, I want to hire really good people. And then let them do them. Because why do I want to go in and kind of micromanage it, we're not a franchise, so we're not going to be the kind of studio where you're going to show up and steal the same kind of program with the same music with the same kind of verbal instructions. Like, I've got Robin who's a Pilates based and a former ballerina, you're gonna feel that in her class. I've gotten a doctor in physical therapy and she's a hot ticket.
[00:18:17] Chad: That's an ex-wife she's talking about, her name is Alicia.
[00:18:21] Meghan Kinsey: And I tell her all the time, and like I can learn from you, you're higher up on the food chain than I am. So there's everyone's different interesting, and she's a French speakers even listen to her voice and you feel like you're being swept away.
[00:18:35] Chad: You speak French.
[00:18:37] Nick: No, Alicia doesn’t speak French.
[00:18:44] Meghan Kinsey: She teaches there's a whole bunch of phenomenal women.
[00:18:52] Nick: For sure. And I feel like that is a very, very unique and cool piece about motivate is that the community and the culture you guys have created and the variety. So each instructor as far as from what I hear. And even what I've seen, I've taken a handful of classes there, each instructor kind of has their own individual following, but then they kind of get blended together. So a certain type of person will be inclined to go to the instructor that they kind of best associate with and then they'll go to other classes and vice versa. And then they get exposed to this this kind of wide range of movement principles like you mentioned, the postural peace, all that kind of stuff. So everyone gets that good variety. But at the end of the day, they all have that community feel and that's truly what keeps people coming back and coming to the doors which is awesome.
[00:19:48] Meghan Kinsey: I love that part. That's actually one of my favorite parts, especially now. Responsible we just went through. I don't want to say it out loud to me. It's like bad word now. To go into the overarching principles of being a healthy person, we are designed to connect. We're designed to look into each other's eyes. We're designed to be in each other's energy space. And just we're designed to hug. The eldest, again, the one going off to college, we give each other 22nd hugs. And it's not like you gotta be here for 20 seconds. He knows that there's stress that moves. He willingly hugs.
[00:20:25] Nick: He knows he's not getting away from it.
[00:20:29] Meghan Kinsey: He leans in. You go, Christian.
[00:20:31] Chad: 80-20, I get it.
[00:20:33] Meghan Kinsey: He thinks so. And it's like a 20 second hug of moving stress out of your body. Absolutely. So as much as I love the virtual offering, so we actually didn't say that before we do virtual we do on demand. So you can do it on your own time, again, to make sure we can meet people where they are, if it's 3am that they can work out. I have a former client who's now in England, so she takes class.
[00:20:53] Chad: Oh, that's cool, man. Like, that's awesome.
[00:20:55] Meghan Kinsey: But the community part is awesome.
[00:20:58] Chad: For sure. Your culture over there is pretty amazing. And I know that the energy in there. I've been there. I've been taking a class. I can't even imagine. That's why I asked what bar was all about.
[00:21:11] Nick: One day, we’ll get him there.
[00:21:12] Meghan Kinsey: I would not be able to keep the story.
[00:21:15] Chad: Just put me in the background. Nobody can see me. And don't put me next to the mayor. Because I don't want to feel bad about myself.
[00:21:21] Meghan Kinsey: When people who are used to picking up big things and putting them, it's a very different modality.
[00:21:29] Nick: It's a struggle.
[00:21:30] Chad: I wouldn't be able to hold myself in some of those positions. I already know it.
[00:21:34] Nick: We just have a lot of mass and you got to hold up a lot of mass does.
[00:21:37] Chad: That's why yoga is so hard for me. I'm fighting against myself the whole time.
[00:21:41] Meghan Kinsey: It's holding that. Your shoulders totally.
[00:21:45] Chad: I'm like, Man that the burn is real for sure.
[00:21:47] Meghan Kinsey: What do you do to balance your exercise?
[00:21:50] Chad: Oh, to balance my exercise, like a restorative practice. What do I do to balance exercises?
[00:21:55] Nick: He shows the patient exercises that are different from his routine?
[00:22:00] Chad: I'm like, I've done that before. So I can't say I've never done it. But it's not part of my daily routine, because I don't need it at this point in time.
[00:22:10] Nick: He actually did cardio consistently for about a month at the beginning of this year. That's true. We were on our way to a huge change with him. We're not in order to lose. We weren't trying to lose mass or anything. We were just trying to make his heart a little healthier. And not that he doesn't have a healthy heart but just optimize.
[00:22:27] Chad: How he could be healthier.
[00:22:29] Nick: He stuck with it for a solid month. And I don't know what did happen.
[00:22:35] Meghan Kinsey: Did you start losing weight and you got all nervous?
[00:22:37] Chad: Well, no. So part of me was thinking, “Man, I can't lose any more muscle mass. This is gonna kill me”.
[00:22:42] Meghan Kinsey: Do you take a tape measure your bicep?
[00:22:46] Chad: No, I didn’t. I'm not recently I have done it in the past. But I only did it because I was part of this little contest that I was doing last year. Remember that thing? But I honestly just don't enjoy cardio. That's really the honest to God truth.
[00:22:58] Meghan Kinsey: So you lean into the things that make you uncomfortable. So you can grow, Chad?
[00:23:02] Chad: That's really okay. So we had this saying a little while ago it was saying that. It was because we gotta get comfortable being uncomfortable. And I did that for a little while and just kept on feeling uncomfortable about it. Never got comfortable.
[00:23:17] Nick: In Chad defense, he's a very, very busy man. So when he has a short amount of time to work out. He's going to do what he enjoys. Which makes sense and that's absolutely something that's better than doing nothing. But we'll get him back. We'll get him back that should.
[00:23:32] Chad: I should throw more cardio and more mindfulness exercise into my life for sure. I need that.
[00:23:39] Meghan Kinsey: Do you meditate?
[00:23:41] Chad: No, but I should. I can't sit there for 5, 10 minutes and think of nothing. It's hard for me to shut my brain off.
[00:23:49] Nick: Don't think of nothing.
[00:23:51] Chad: Can we go off? Well, we did that Wim Hof thing, and that actually wasn't bad. But I still had a hard time with it go off on that.
[00:23:58] Meghan Kinsey: So I don't know what I heard this, I think another functional nutrition. So having said this, it's the secret sauce. It meditation and I resist it. Let's go back to the beginning of a conversation. Ants in the pants resisted until the research. I was like, “Alright, I am now an idiot if I continue to push back on this, and I love these little analogies and this one applies to you was really about meditation”. Is your brain going to the gym like that? That's a good one. So you curl into your bicep, you expect to see change? Well, you can expect to see change. If you do brain scans on brains that have been meditating regularly. You will see the areas of your brain that are all represent the good stuff, the compassion, the empathy, the focus, they get bigger and those areas will light up. And they areas that are for like anxiety and depression. All the things that we try to remove, all this they kind of dim and so they do brain scans on this stuff and they see over here. Next time, big change and then you're just think about what you want to get done. It's almost like a little shot of adrenaline into those areas figuratively speaking, that are going to help you get what you want to get done to be more effective, you'll probably work smarter instead of harder for sure, you'll be happier and more patients.
[00:25:20] Chad: That I could use. So what's the trick, then?
[00:25:24] Meghan Kinsey: I guess, I'm training on a program like you guys constant doing training and something. I'm not training to become an instructor of meditation. But, do I train my clients to meditate? And the one that I'm working on. So she has a sub doing twice a day now 10 minutes each. So that's a lot for me, given sit down for a few minutes, beginning with a lot. I like guided meditations in the beginning, because I felt like I must consider training wheels, I needed to hear someone's voice tell me what to think or breathe or tense this area up and release that I just needed something to kind of make myself sit there long enough. And then when I was ready, the training wheels came off and now mantra based. So first we'll start with some mindfulness breaths to kind of be present in kind of, I'm not meditating yet, per se. So think of mindfulness is just kind of being here now feeling where you're feeling. And then the meditation is kind of like you're digging into, I was considered like cleaning so much crap in your basement, and you gotta once in a while, you're gonna go in there and clean it out. That's like the stress of your body that you're kind of moving out. And you don't have to be given to call upon the stress. So I'm going to now deal with that. That crap kid in sixth grade who was always mean to me and deal that stress. And now it's just kind of all the stuff kind of moves out. The manifestation stuff if you ever need access to more and more future based, but the meditation part, once I take maybe like a minute, two minutes of like, box breath, for your listeners to know that it's like the inhale for the hold the breath for the exhale, for the hold for that one, or I do like it to x. inhale to exhale for a few moments, kind of just settle in. And then the meditation begins. And mine's mantra based right now. My Next touch is my mantra.
[00:27:21] Chad: I love it. Where are you going to get that on the other arm or what?
[00:27:23] Meghan Kinsey: So I'm having a hard time with that right now. I'm thinking maybe just because since this one's vertical, kind of going up thinking this one horizontal. So I'm into words. You're in a picture.
[00:27:33] Chad: I'm into everything. Just put it all on there.
[00:27:36] Meghan Kinsey: Do your listeners know what your arms look like?
So I've got three tattoos. Well, they're three main tattoos but it takes up my whole arm. And they're all my daughters. I've got a clock for each one of them. Actually, the twins share clock because they share everything. That's just how it is. I'm a twin. I know how it is. So they share a clock. So what's their date that they were born in their time they were born and then they've got their birth flowers that surrounded the rest of it. So and then I've got two doves on the top ones, my wife and one's man, it's like shining on all the clocks.
[00:28:04] Meghan Kinsey: I love it.
[00:28:05] Nick: That goes up to his left shoulder and then guess what's on his left side on my left PEC on his left.
[00:28:10] Chad: And his eyes always like looking up at, it's kind of creepy. It's gonna be embarrassed, actually.
[00:28:18] Meghan Kinsey: I feel awkward sitting here between you. Like I'm breaking something.
[00:28:23] Nick: Because that's why we gave you Chad seat.
[00:28:25] Chad: Nick was on vacation last week. And I felt like I had lost my long lost brother. I was like, it's so quiet in here.
[00:28:32] Meghan Kinsey: Oh my gosh. But then I go into the mantra one, so I'm just breathing. And my goal is nothingness. But it doesn't work that way. So I compare it to like the puppy you're trying to train on the pedal pet, like, there it is, but then it runs off. No harm, no foul, don't yell at it. Don't get mad at it. Just gently lift it and bring it back. That's that bringing it back that's where the monitor comes in. It kind of anchors it for me. And I go back into that and just in my head and I'm saying out loud and then the puppy runs off again. Bring it back, no matter how many times. The only way you've failed is just because you didn't bring it back. You let the puppy run away.
[00:29:11] Chad: So is the puppy a symbol for something?
[00:29:14] Meghan Kinsey: A thought an anxiety attending a to do item on your to do list just wherever your brains going, I do put something in my ears. I've yet to kind of be able to go off. But not I need something I've got like water running with bird sounds and mild music, no words. Just something that kind of helped me out to not be distracted by something I'm hearing. It's about 10 minutes in the morning. I'm still working on the 10 minutes in the afternoon. I don't have that anchored into my behaviors right now. I anger the stuff in the morning easily because my mornings are relatively the same afternoons. It's all bets are off.
[00:29:52] Chad: And you found significant changes in your productivity throughout the day?
[00:29:58] Meghan Kinsey: And I think there's room still for improvement for sure. I feel like that's where the whole self-love thing comes in, I find that your just the respect level you have for yourself just improves markedly with all of these types of behaviors. And meditation is one of them. And maybe it's happening on the inside. Like, literally physically something in my brain is changing. Or maybe it's just because I'm spending more time giving back to myself with these practices. And it's great for modeling. I've got three boys and one of them got some pretty lofty goals that will require a lot of I say, he needs a master meditation if he wants go where he wants to go.
[00:30:42] Nick: And there's no limit to the mind but the mind is essentially limitless. Like, strength, cardiovascular, fitness, all that kind of stuff. It's gonna hit a ceiling at some point. Where's the ceiling for our mind for a mindfulness we don't know. There might not even be one. So you could keep getting better and meditation.
[00:31:01] Chad: Not unless you get that pill from that movie.
[00:31:04] Nick: That's what I want. That pill is meditate.
[00:31:09] Meghan Kinsey: As you can become some evil superheroes.
[00:31:14] Chad: I'm not going to tell any of you on taking it either. So there'll be smarter than he already is smarter than if we take something fucked.
[00:31:23] Meghan Kinsey: I was waiting for someone to say that. That's the first.
[00:31:27] Chad: That's me.
[00:31:28] Nick: It's always, Chad. I still haven't. I don't think I've sworn on this yet.
[00:31:32] Chad: No, you said baloney.
[00:31:33] Nick: I said baloney. And I said freaking last year but I don't know.
[00:31:36] Chad: I'll swear less because my mom gets mad at me.
[00:31:40] Nick: Well, that's what's in the back of my mind, though. If my mom listens, I don't want to swear.
[00:31:43] Meghan Kinsey: When my husband met me. I had a truck driver mouth. I was working away from Jersey. Oh, there it is. That's what it is. And I was working in restaurants. When I was getting grads when I was in grad school. Oh my gosh, it's awful language, it's he literally gets like what is going on? Like, I'll work on it. I'll work on it. I slipped back in every so often.
[00:32:06] Nick: One quick thing on the meditation. So I would say the best piece of advice that I ever got about meditation was and I meditate pretty much every morning. Sometimes I waver on the weekends a little bit, but Monday through Friday, 20 minutes in the morning, I don't do an afternoon session just in the morning. And the best piece of advice that helped me stick to it was let your mind drift, let it go and try to come back. But if it's going elsewhere, there's a reason for that, let it drift.
[00:32:36] Meghan Kinsey: And then all the way like you're completely far away from quite?
[00:32:39] Nick: Well, that's still a form of meditation. It's just not the meditation that we typically think of. But if you need, if any listeners need advice on kind of where to start to a good technique is actually using what's called the heart in front. So have a few incidents in your life that you were blissfully filled with joy. So maybe wedding day birth of your children, those types of days as memories, and they will elicit the happiness response. So if you are having trouble meditating, or sitting down, focusing on your breath, whatever you however, you've been taught to meditate, sit down, lay down, get in a comfortable position. And think of these heart imprints these times in your life that made you super happy, because they have been shown to have the similar responses within your physiology as that same day. So if you just think of them, you can get a decrease in your blood pressure, you can get all these positive things we get from meditation, you can get it by just thinking about that, that event. So that can be a good strategy to tap into. If you're having trouble winding down and getting into that meditative state. Think of one of those incidents or those events and have just have them kind of ready to go have three, four or five in the back of your head at any time. You're ready to meditate, but don't fight the mind drifting. Because I think that's what deters a lot of people. They try it and they're like, “My mind just drifts. I can't do it, forget it, I'm never gonna do it”. And they go through the cycle of trying mind drifts. So they they're like, “Oh, I can't do this, but let it drift”. And over time, you probably will get better at it not drifting because your body knows, I'm meditating now. It's time to lock in, but up till that point. You can't fight it. You got to move with it, that's a good strategy future.
[00:34:33] Chad: I like it.
[00:34:34] Meghan Kinsey: It's gonna work better for you.
[00:34:35] Chad: I think the one time that I actually tried that. My wife dragged me to float in Portsmouth. It's a float tank. And it was a full hour and after the first 20 minutes I was done.
[00:34:48] Meghan Kinsey: I can be doing so much work my day.
[00:34:50] Chad: So me from Epsom salts it was like they had the lights were in there. It was nice. The music was playing. It was warm water, it was good. But it was just, I don’t know.
[00:35:04] Meghan Kinsey: Not at all like a Wim Hof.
[00:35:05] Chad: No actually the Wim Hof was the closest probably thing I felt meditation for sure, that was wild. And I actually almost passed out during that when he did the shrub thing at the end.
[00:35:17] Meghan Kinsey: So you didn’t do the first one?
[00:35:18] Chad: No, I did the second one because it was 80 degrees.
[00:35:21] Meghan Kinsey: That's the first one we did, Nick and I kept looking at it. It wasn't like, we're in this like, trippy. We like I felt like we were doing like some kind of drug together.
[00:35:29] Nick: It was like for sure.
[00:35:30] Chad: I definitely felt that. I know that the body is going through some changes that you're doing that but there's definitely some sensations that you got going on there. That's just not normal. It's a weird.
[00:35:38] Meghan Kinsey: You're better at keeping up on that. I'm horrible now. Errol, moved to Colorado. He's our former Navy SEAL. Wim Hof instructor who's come twice to teach us and I don't know if he's traveling back East. I can grab again.
[00:35:54] Chad: We had some great turnouts on that though. You had some really good turnouts on the score. Those are sweet. It was really good. I would definitely do it again.
[00:36:02] Meghan Kinsey: Me too.
[00:36:03] Chad: For sure.
[00:36:03] Meghan Kinsey: On that and practicing like that all the time. I hate the cold part. Like, I really.
[00:36:09] Nick: It's my favorite part.
[00:36:10] Chad: I know and this is the weird part about that. And Nick was like, “Dude, I'm telling you right now, it's not as bad as you think it is to get in there”. And it's gonna be warmer than you think. And I'm like, “Dude, this guy's full of shit”. So I got in there. And I'm not even kidding. After I got in there. I literally felt like there was this little barrier of warmth around my body. And I was sitting in the same tank as my wife and she was freaking out. I'm like, “Why are you so cold right now?” It's so warm right here and Alicia was the same way.
[00:36:34] Meghan Kinsey: She was getting all freaked out too.
[00:36:37] Nick: She doesn't do cold.
[00:36:38] Meghan Kinsey: Well, now it was cute. You guys pair it off with your wife. There's a bonding moment. It’s sweet, lovely. I actually wanted to test the whole theory of like, going into the breath state and the mindful part of it. And then going the water, which we do all together. I came back later, because my sister's house is where we hosted the second one. And I jumped back in the ice without prepping night and day. It's like needles, it was horrifying. The second time, it's like amazing. If you just set the mind for it, how much easier it is the whole prep for sure. Before we go off into something else that what you're talking about to Nick just last before about your meditation style, it seems a little bit like it overlays with them. What I do with a gratitude the idea of mindset and the idea of sometimes starting well, so it's funny, I love the fact there's different meditation practices. And I would say anyone who was even remotely interested try all these different kinds, there's so many different ways about going about it. And I don't know if there's one right or wrong way, the woman I'm training under, I'm doing it her way and work so like. But the idea of like, if you need to clear your brain in a way that is going to prep you for the meditation coming forward. The morning pages is like a technique where you just open a notebook and your mind dump on the pages and it's very free. And then maybe ending it with just a few gratitude’s. There's like meat research about like heart patients and their improvement, just if they add gratitude, to like a deliberate gratitude practice to their day. How cool is that a heck of a lot cheaper than medication and all kinds of stuff? It's like wild.
[00:38:12] Nick: Well, the whole brain dump concept has been shown to be super effective for people who struggle with sleeping to right before bed. So a lot of times your brain is just racing about certain things that you've been thinking about throughout the day, or things you need to do the next day. And your brain won't let you forget about it because it's not anywhere. Concrete, like it's not on a piece of paper. So if you just write down everything that's on your mind, your brain can rest easy, because now it knows that it'll be on that paper tomorrow. Versus if you're just thinking about it, it might forget it that might lose it in that short term memory bank. So just brain dumping, putting it all on paper read before bed, can be a huge, huge thing. Adding to that that pre bed routine, pre sleep routine.
[00:38:55] Meghan Kinsey: Completely unrelated. Your listeners know that you look at the microphone, which makes you cross eyed as you
[00:39:00] Nick: I don't know why I do that. I think I want to make sure I'm not getting away from it. But I don't think they know that because we really haven't done any videos.
[00:39:08] Chad: He just wants to make sure that he's not too close where he's like trying to lick.
[00:39:11] Nick: I just want to make sure I'm at the appropriate distance which is put your tongue out on the tip of your tongue.
[00:39:20] Chad: We don't know about but let's see.
[00:39:21] Nick: I got all my notes right there. You guys can't see him.
[00:39:25] Chad: You probably will. It's time to change right now, I'll work on that. It's funny that you said that because I have been noticing that but I just haven't really said anything I just say, that's all I'm gonna be thinking about every time. I love it.
[00:39:45] Nick: My bad. I'm gonna keep doing it because it's been doing it for eight episodes now so I can't see you do look a little crazy right now. So that's how you lucked out. I know, that's what I'm saying. You look a little crazy. So I like a lot of crazy. That's right as long as what I'm saying makes sense. Does it totally just do this? You said you're doing that.
[00:40:21] Chad: What's the next question, Nick?
[00:40:23] Nick: Thank you. Hold on. Let me look at my microphone to see what I'm going to ask you. Let's get away from the meditation thing. I think we harped on that a little bit. Let's talk more about you've mentioned the boys quite a bit all for boys that you take care of.
[00:40:41] Meghan Kinsey: All my nuggets.
[00:40:43] Nick: Well, I'm including Brent on this.
[00:40:45] Chad: He's a good nugget.
[00:40:46] Meghan Kinsey: Here's a good nugget.
[00:40:47] Nick: So you take care of for boys at home for men.
[00:40:50] Meghan Kinsey: And they take care of me as well.
[00:40:53] Nick: Absolutely. How do you so it sounds like you are very effective in instilling these health changes lifestyle changes with your clients, how do you instill this with the boys at home?
[00:41:08] Meghan Kinsey: Model, model and model. And if modeling fails, you're in charge the money just don't buy the crap, end of story. Anything else?
[00:41:20] Nick: That was quick. Alright, there you go. They haven't episode is over.
[00:41:24] Meghan Kinsey: I live a healthy lifestyle for sure. Like, I'm gonna brag on my husband 54 just turned six pack, he works hard. He does look great. He looks great. So I just like a way of doing life when friends had not one but two shoulder surgeries as you are well aware. His second one he came back even more quickly. Hold on, you were the PTs only on the second one, weren't you?
[00:41:52] Nick: That was me.
[00:41:53] Chad: That was Nick.
[00:41:54] Meghan Kinsey: Like, the first one.
[00:40:47] Nick: We were not involved with the first one.
[00:42:00] Meghan Kinsey: Well, that’s why he came so back. So there's a combo I'm like, honestly, it's you. We've also taken uptick in nutrition and supplementation. Dr. Mathias is even like, that just kind of like twice as far along as you should be. He's even said nothing better than a small Dunkin Donuts coffee in that hand. Like he was nervous. He was going to overdo it. So let's backpedal a little bit more. I was raised by a Sugar Nazi. She read the book, Sugar Blues, and I was born in 1971. Yes, I turned 50 next month. I'm gonna say it now, “Holy shit”.
[00:42:39] Nick: So it's just a number.
[00:42:43] Meghan Kinsey: I love it, I was out last night a big number. It's a big number. But I like when people are like, you go in line to like you'd need to show your ID and you have it out there like, “I don’t need it.” I'm like, “Man, you understand that's a flirt”. I did. Anyway, so she was really intense about after she read this book, I think is that for my first ear infection as an infant. And again, I'm the oldest. So she's like, how's it go? My secondary infection just like you. So we just keep getting infections, and I just keep giving me this pink liquid stuff. And that's just how we do life. Like, there's got to be a better way. So off on her own, she's doing research and reading. And then she's hooked up with this chiropractor and chiropractors back then look like voodoo doctors, people have no idea. And he was also doing like muscle testing. Like, it was called applied kinesiology. There's and next thing, he's talking to her about well, refined, processed, remove, remove, remove. And this is the onset of processed food diets, like the early 70s is where it all just takes off. If you kind of track metabolic disease and obesity, everything was really wrong or anything 70s and 80s. And so she was swimming big time upstream. And we had no sugar in the house. I joke that I'm actually not kidding. She caught me with cocaine, and that was in less trouble than a Fish Company. So I was raised that way, but the how I changed things for myself as soon as I was like, in junior high and I could go out of the house and be making my own choices. I was like freebasing as much sugar as I could between exiting the house and coming back in. If I could tap with me and put the sugar in I would have and I was also suffering from like, blood sugar drops that caused me to pass out. So I was like, “Oh, this cause and effect”. I guess there is something to this. So I developed my own version just like y'all do. You develop your own maybe spirituality. You're born into, I practice and you morph into what you want to make yours. Same thing with nutrition. But having the kids really made me kind of teed up a little more. So we eat in a nutshell, I try not to tell them this is good and that is bad. Rather, how does that make you feel? How does that make you feel? And what's the purposes of this food? Is it just for pure pleasure? Or is it was your goal to have a lot of energy to they all go to the gym, all four of my boys. They're actively looking to make themselves as healthy as they can be. That's the big interest of them. Even like connecting things like, “Oh, that acne”. Is that kind of annoying? Let's see, maybe, when you eat less dairy, clears up shopping. That's maybe that's not everybody, but just happens to be them like the cause and effect. So it's a lot of narration about why I'm eating salad for breakfast, they roll their e still about one. Removing the processed food stuff.
[00:45:59] Nick: Nice. So a little bit of a two way street there kind of made them take ownership early on, and they've just turned it into their own thing.
[00:46:07] Meghan Kinsey: And it’s packing for camping right now. And that's historically when they can go off the rails. And it's funny to watch them not want to go off the rails as much, because they're recognizing well, that just kind of undid all that hard work I did at the gym or all supplementation that they buy from you all.
[00:46:28] Chad: He had the best graduation gift. I'm just saying. I showed up there. I had a whole box of protein, creatine, oh my God, he was like in heaven.
[00:46:36] Meghan Kinsey: It was funny. Everyone's like, “Who is that guy?” Like, you were an outlier. I didn't know you at the party.
[00:46:43] Chad: That's true. Actually, I don't think I knew many people there. I knew a few people that was going on.
[00:46:54] Nick: Let's talk supplements then you mentioned supplements a couple of times. So, what supplements do you take currently?
[00:47:05] Chad: What are you on? What are you doing? What do you what do you tell the people?
[00:47:08] Meghan Kinsey: I'm a guinea pig for my own like family and clients. I usually start with me before I do it for a while before even like moving on to my family and talk about it with clients. And as I even before I say anything like that anything, there's no one size fits all. And I recognize that that's true food, health habits in general supplementation, but do I try to make sure. So if meditation is the secret sauce, it slips into all those nooks and crannies of my mind and spirit that I'm trying to work on to make as best I feel like supplementation helps me out with the gaps in regards to the food. I'm currently testing out with athletic greens. I've done another one before that was like the liquid kind of stuff you shake up in the morning. I've been hovering along with Bulletproof they have a line of supplements I've been taking for a while to kind of I usually try to phase one out before phase one. And that's a challenge. Sometimes the timing is off like you got a few left. I make sure there's a few T's I'm definitely crossing like my Vitamins A, D, and K. Krill Oil from omega three fatty acids, curcumin just to keep inflammation at bay and joints healthy happy. Thinking copper, magnesium, I'm trying to go through like my job thing.
[00:48:35] Nick: I think the most important thing there is that you said it's there to fill in gaps. It's not it's not taking the place of anything. It's just filling in the gaps. And I think that's important for the listener that the supplements aren't there for anything other than that. There's supplemental.
[00:48:51] Meghan Kinsey: Don't even talk about it until halfway through a six month coaching program. Because otherwise people like oh, I can eat crap all day and just take supplements. That's easy-peasy. Now there's any days that's longevity. Seriously, it's 50 comes, so I’m holy moly. I want to be my best.
[00:49:17] Nick: So if you want to look Meghan, you gotta do everything.
[00:49:23] Meghan Kinsey: Now you got your eyes off to the microphone.
[00:49:24] Chad: Like he's not even looking outside anymore.
[00:49:27] Nick: Of course, I am. You guys made fun of me. I gotta make up for it.
[00:49:32] Chad: Speaking of supplements, there was one supplement that I've been taking recently, actually over the last six months. It's called N-acetyl cysteine. Don't get off the air, but I'm gonna do it. I don't care. I'm doing it. I don't care.
[00:49:46] Meghan Kinsey: It's not legal?
[00:49:48] Chad: It's just not, it's frowned upon.
[00:49:51] Nick: It's very safe, but it's frowned upon because it's been shown to be an effective treatment for symptoms.
[00:50:03] Meghan Kinsey: And you can't say it out loud.
[00:50:07] Nick: Because, basically, it was shown to be effective, but it's, there's no money to be made off it from the pharmaceutical companies. So they have censored it, it was actually removed from Amazon.
[00:50:16] Chad: And the reason why I initially got that was because I got my labs done last year, and my liver enzymes are just a tad bit high. So my doctor was like, you should try to calm that down with eating more fish, whatever, which I eat enough of anyways, but I ended up doing some research and we were actually looking at it was it was kind of like it was on like the border of this fatty liver disease and acetyl cysteine was one of those, I wouldn't call it a treatment, but it's definitely one of the supplements that helps to reduce the amount.
[00:50:53] Nick: So to get nerdy for a second N-acetyl cysteine is basically the precursor to what's called glutathione, which is the main detoxifier from the liver. So, N-acetyl cysteine will increase your stores of glutathione throughout the body. So now you can get all that those toxins out. And I would argue that Chad's values would probably at those levels, because he does train so hard from a weightlifting perspective. So he has a lot of the cellular breakdown, the muscle fiber breakdown, he has a lot of those components running through his bloodstream. So those are considered toxins. So the body's trying to flush that out. So his levels were a little bit higher than the norm but fill in the gap. Add to the N-acetyl cysteine stores. Glutathione increases detoxifies a little faster. You might have to peel this is why I have them around so smart. It happens.
[00:51:43] Meghan Kinsey: I'm gonna all right now I follow them around. It's like tape recorder.
[00:51:46] Chad: You know, seriously?
[00:51:47] Nick: I'm just gonna look at the microphone the whole time. But that's fine.
[00:51:52] Chad: But the kicker about that is I started taking Matt and then like, three months later, one of my patient’s works for this company called Excella. And they're a company that tests the metabolites in your blood to determine how well your gut bacteria is functioning in your body, and if certain metabolites are higher, it could indicate certain whether it be anxiety, depression, liver function, whatever, and that test came out positive and they have recommendations for supplements that they provide.
[00:52:25] Meghan Kinsey: I need this person.
[00:52:26] Chad: We got the kids. And one of the supplements out there N-acetyl cysteine. I'm like, “Damn.”
[00:52:35] Meghan Kinsey: You can access this or is it hard to find out?
[00:52:38] Chad: You can find it.
[00:52:40] Nick: N-acetyl cysteine.
[00:52:41] Chad: I bought a shit ton off eBay. Are you hoarding it? I just bought like four bottles. So it's like, the Seinfeld episode, and I'm gonna sell them for twice what they're worth next year. And
[00:52:52] Meghan Kinsey: I'm just getting old episodes that I'm referring to know, when people buy things and they hoard them when they're going off the market referred to the sponge episode.
[00:53:02] Chad: We have one here because Nick was like, “Yo, I think I could”, but Nick's not very good at swallowing pills.
[00:53:07] Meghan Kinsey: Seriously, do you gag?
[00:53:09] Nick: Guys, don't make fun of me. I haven't really strong gag reflex.
[00:53:14] Chad: He goes, Chad, can you bring in medicine N-acetyl cysteine. I'm like, sure, man. I got a couple left. And he goes, he opens up the bottle. He goes, “Oh my God, these pills of fucking huge”.
[00:53:25] Meghan Kinsey: So what I did with my little boy. And this is for everybody listening. I'm better now. When he's not better.
[00:53:35] Nick: I'm definitely better than I used to.
[00:53:37] Meghan Kinsey: That's what you do is you take a dedicated coffee bean grinder and swipe your pills and you grind them up. And when you really have a hard time I put them in chocolate ice cream.
[00:53:53] Chad: And you gave the chain you can even the train or the airplane, whatever he prefers.
[00:53:57] Meghan Kinsey: And that's how I snuck them in for my kids because they like the pills. There was no capsule form.
[00:54:03] Chad: I couldn't open it and I could honestly just throw that thing in the post workout shake that he drinks because it's like mud when it comes he has to eat it with a spoon.
[00:54:09] Nick: It's damn right. I do. I think it's good. So I bring other things to the table. I don't need to totally, totally. Oh, that's true, but I need a kit. My nutrition is so on point who knew who needs pills?
[00:54:23] Meghan Kinsey: I sneed a kit and it's going to tell me it's going to because I take all these things as baseline but I need to know what's and I haven't gone that direction yet.
[00:54:30] Chad: It's pretty informative actually. The big thing with me was diversifying my fibers because I don't I probably don't eat enough fiber because I don't need a ton of vegetables. I eat some but I ate some like today I have brussel sprouts in my ground beef, which I do have accountable.
[00:54:46] Meghan Kinsey: A little thing I do with my coaching clients or so is here to pick a new vegetable per week. And I have a good app that helps you kind of guide you and push you in that direction. It's got a daily doesn't Mr. Dr. Greger he's a vegetarian. So everything on that you don't see meat show up on his he wrote the book How Not to Die. Sure. And you pick one and your goal is to get the information so that Google recipe for it and be like, al, this is the new one, I'm gonna. That's what you do back to microbiome. That's how you populate the good stuff in there. You got to diversify the hell out of it. Totally. So pick a new one each week.
[00:55:24] Chad: I know I'm not very great with diversity. I'm like the type of person that just eats the same meal three times a day. And you make your meal plan with you, that's me. They're all laid out there in the fridge that ready to go for the vegetable. I know that I gotta do that and put a good chunk of fat good olive oil. That's about afraid of I put that on everything. I love that Chipotle line mail by primal kitchen.
[00:55:45] Meghan Kinsey: Speaking of macro, so actually just said this, someone's talking about talk about my biggest boy, my husband, he's my assistant. Like, I did a lot of simple carbs before I married protein.
[00:56:00] Nick: Nice.
[00:56:02] Meghan Kinsey: He's the rock of which my muscle build. The most important background? Seriously, you don't even need the carbs technically, but don't need the vegetable solutions.
[00:56:14] Chad: Vegetables have minimal carbs, natural carbs wise. But that was a good talk on nutrition.
[00:56:22] Nick: How did we get into supplements? Is that everything on supplements?
[00:56:31] Meghan Kinsey: I’m not forgetting something, but I feel like, I don't know. I think that's it. I'm about to start a new one. It's neuro what I call it. I was reading. So they're blends. So they're almost like gold based. And you've got your vitamins, minerals, your adaptogens, and things of that nature. And it's all kind of synthesized for one particular goal. So I'll be taking one that's based on sleep, I'll be taking another one that's based on cognitive all those. That's the longevity and I've just never gotten to something like intermittent fasting and things of that nature. It's all not about weight loss. And as such, it's all about making sure my brains at its best. I think there's another one for immunity. So there's a bundle of it, getting it almost like the goal is to kind of like, you don't need anything else. When you're taking it. I still feel like magnesium is one of those things. I should always be on top of an additional, but I haven't taken it yet. I literally just ordered it today. I'll check back with you.
[00:57:30] Chad: Keep us updated on that for sure. So, in terms of motivate I know you guys have been jamming over there and your new spot. You've got metabolic conditioning classes. What are the classes you guys have over there right now?
[00:57:41] Meghan Kinsey: So strength and metabolic conditioning, it's wrapped into one we've got barn we do bar blend. So that's like, it's kind of like a hip treat clients like my children. But it's like when you are really pushing back on cardio? , that'd be a good one. It's blend some cardio into a bar class. So it's like forcing the issue. So you'll get some.
[00:58:08] Nick: That's like mixing the pill into the chocolate ice cream.
[00:58:10] Chad: That's what it is. I could just take Metcon and not have any cardio, that'd be cool.
[00:58:19] Meghan Kinsey: Then we have also barbed wire blend yoga.
[00:58:24] Chad: Do you guys do spend to?
[00:58:25] Meghan Kinsey: No, we do have bikes to build them into? So you got some people on the battle ropes or inertia bands as we have inertia wave initially. And then you have some people like on the boxes and some people on the bikes. So and we have a cardio 45 class, which is actually developed. It's basically a take on a 30 minute hit class, but a little more of the like sustained aerobic activity. So it's true 45 minutes of cardio, and we move the people around the circuits to do that. Which kind of makes it not boring. It's like class is over.
[00:58:58] Chad: It goes by fast. So do you have any big things coming up any like things that you're about to add to motivate that's going to just bring you guys to this like next level?
[00:59:10] Nick: Now your challenging me be Chad, I would love to hire a guy. I would love if there's a man out there. Who teaches strength Metcom cardio, yoga?
[00:59:25] Meghan Kinsey: I would love, love, love, love to diversify.
[00:59:30] Nick: Not you don't have enough time.
[00:59:32] Chad: I don't. I would do it. If I had enough time, I would definitely do that.
[00:59:37] Meghan Kinsey: That would be fine. It will be fine. Have you really find the group coaching is I in light of the recent stuff we've been through that I won't say out loud because I'm gonna not use that word anymore.
[00:59:52] Chad: It’s a bad word.
[00:59:54] Meghan Kinsey: I've my coaching business has really taken off I think people are realizing that if you take some personal responsibility for your health, the appeal, I think a lot of times and so it's the deck of cards, I was dealt with genetics and you're like, “Well, actually way more. It's due to our lifestyle behaviors, y'all know”.
[01:00:17] Nick: We dove into that a little bit last episode.
[01:00:19] Meghan Kinsey: So if there's things you can do, and it's not just like, for the sake of staying healthy in a way, that's about avoiding illness, it's also like, don't you want to feel really awesome and your skin and vibrant and energetic and get up in the morning, wake up in the morning and be like, please give me a good day. Like a glass half full perspective that comes with health. It's not just like a decision, like if you are, I don't know, it's like the hormones used and all, you got your oxytocin, your endorphins, I just love all that stuff. And I want to help people feel that same way. And the coaching side of things we've taken off them for that reason. So group coaching helped me see more people consider them as hiring another coach to do what I do with other clients, because my local maxes out at a certain point.
[01:01:07] Chad: So is that something that they can do with you online as well, or is this all in person?
[01:01:11] Meghan Kinsey: No, we do it on Zoom. I've got clients out of state. So Zoom, there's been a few benefits to that bad word, like the idea of developing all these programs that I can make so much more accessible, because now we're all sudden, it was there before, but we just didn't pay attention, I believe, at least I didn't. My husband doesn't have to commute. Now, he took a new job that he otherwise probably would have never taken because he didn't want to deal with the commute. And that's kind of a good thing. I discovered I love stadiums, running stadiums. That was my way of getting out of my own head. During that time, that just made me feel like I have some power. And that's actually that's the newest best science to educate women to watch and listen to him like it's wicked, wicked smart. So after doing it for all during the lockdown, I was realizing I was doing in response to my anxiety about, my business going to close. Like, I built this baby. You said I have four boys, my studio is my other child in a sense. And I was like, and it's just gonna fall apart and I have no control over this. I'm like, “There's nothing worse for me than not feeling like I have some influence on an outcome”. Like I have faith in the process, don't get me wrong. And if the outcome doesn't turn out the way I expected, I have faith that that was supposed to happen. My faith is actually a big part of my health too. And spirituality is a big part of over the blue zones, that alone if you read about them, you recognize that that's part of health and longevity. But I kind of would have thought I remember one morning four in the morning, I woke up with such a state of anxiety that I got up strap my shoes on and I lived two blocks from the high school off I went at the sun was rising. And I just needed to feel my heart beating outside of my chest. It's called cardio, Chad.
[01:03:09] Chad: I know what that feels, like my heart rate is.
[01:03:14] Nick: It's almost like an offset that you guys could just hug right now.
[01:03:21] Meghan Kinsey: I’m not that's why I put a table on it. He's really not a huge yet. He doesn't like the whole.
[01:03:27] Chad: I tried it.
[01:03:30] Meghan Kinsey: I did see the stress in your face when I pray.
[01:03:32] Chad: I'm okay with hugging people that have already hugged but for new hugs, it's just different. I don't know if that makes any sense. Familiar how to simulate difference than new hooks. You don't know what to expect. You don't know what to feel.
[01:03:44] Nick: That’s an easy way to get comfortable being uncomfortable. Just start hugging people. I know it's kind of frowned upon with everything going on, but come on.
[01:03:52] Chad: So I did this 40 week mentorship, two years ago, and the big thing that they told me is that everybody hugs out there. I had so much anxiety before. I swear to God, I was like, “Dude, we were practicing hugs in the clinic because I was like, I don't even know how to click.
[01:04:05] Meghan Kinsey: Are you kidding me? I'll totally hug you.
[01:04:09] Chad: I hug my kid. We're good. Well, you hug me already. We're gonna get that in. So we're good. I can feel your hugs your gear good. She does. She does. Remember, we talked about this patient with like, which way do I put my head? I don't know. Gotta go to the left. Always gotta go. When somebody goes to you don't know what to do. I never thought about that.
[01:04:32] Meghan Kinsey: Because everything else to the right, that's really weird.
[01:04:35] Chad: Totally.
[01:04:35] Nick: And then some people have one arm hire one arm lowers when people go arms even.
[01:04:42] Chad: What do you do? It's like a last minute decision. It's game time. You don't know which way you're going.
[01:04:47] Meghan Kinsey: And then there's the kissers who think they're coming to cheat but then they go square off. Like what in the world except Tamburini kisses parents square on the mouth, and I do appreciate that.
[01:04:59] Chad: Well, and your kids are like that old, I don't know.
[01:05:02] Meghan Kinsey: My kids tell me don't even. Like when I get to certain, my son will let talk to my little ones still does. So there's gone somewhere that I just completely went off in a different.
[01:05:18] Chad: We were talking about the science of hugs.
[01:05:20] Meghan Kinsey: So if you're in that state of anxiety, or fear, I think it's more about fear moving propelling your body forwards and not like in a passive way where you're in a car or something like you you're motoring yourself forward the act of doing that which takes you out of that fear statement into courage. He's interference studies like seals, and all the people, bio hacker’s endurance athletes, people who can kind of tap into themselves and kind of get the best out of themselves in situations that most humans can't. And that's what he was saying. So all sudden, I'm like, “Don't wonder I'm freaking doing these stadiums like I was”. So I was actually so psyched that intuitively, I did something that meant so much because I literally decided to move my studio and not close and keep going and go push into the next certification for nutrition all while doing stadiums. Like I'd literally do them. And while I'm like out of breath, I'm like, manifesting my next step. So now you just ask that question, Chad, I think it's time for more stadiums. I think that's where I can clear myself and kind of make the thing.
[01:06:31] Chad: That you think I'll do one round of Stadium.
[01:06:34] Meghan Kinsey: Oh my gosh, it's just stadium together.
[01:06:36] Nick: I think we need to lock this in. I think Chad needs to do stairs.
[01:06:39] Meghan Kinsey: Can you commit right now?
[01:06:42] Chad: How many are we doing? How big is the stadium?
[01:06:44] Meghan Kinsey: I go up and down and back and forth.
[01:06:48] Chad: Is it like a 10 minute thing, 15 minutes?
[01:06:50] Meghan Kinsey: Well, you don't have to that one, I will probably do maybe four cycles of it. So up and back as one. , it's maybe four but I would I would take Brent swears that he takes every step and that changes. I guess I do every other step.
[01:07:02] Chad: I'll definitely be taking the least amount of steps as possible. So let's put a time. Let's make them commit to 15 minutes. I can do 15 and we do it.
[01:07:14] Meghan Kinsey: We do it in the morning before you get to where you come here. What time you get.
[01:07:18] Nick: He gets here really.
[01:07:19] Chad: Absolutely.
[01:07:20] Meghan Kinsey: We could do it for Instagram, gentlemen.
[01:07:26] Chad: I'll do it whenever you want.
[01:07:28] Meghan Kinsey: Like, seven in the morning. Is that really enough, 6:30?
[01:07:29] Chad: So we could do 06:30.
[01:07:32] Meghan Kinsey: You still need to get shower here. I cannot leave it on.
[01:07:35] Chad: That's my biggest regret and stay home this week and take a Polish shower. And that's what we've been doing. It works is not bad. So it's all right. Well, it's working. Thanks. I think we have pretty good hygiene. For the most part. Nicks, takes worth way more than I do.
[01:07:50] Nick: I sweat a lot. But I don’t think I smell a lot. I clean off pretty well.
[01:07:54] Meghan Kinsey: I can't believe how much you sweat, poor Alicia.
[01:07:58] Chad: We do just wait until after this podcast and have him lift his arms there. It's going to be covered. I don't know. We did talk about this. Unless I have to sing or debate, then I'm aware of something. At least you shave your armpits.
[01:08:18] Nick: So that's it. You're good. Looks fine.
[01:08:22] Chad: So you're not completely all natural. But you're close.
[01:08:25] Meghan Kinsey: Well, I just want to read about it. I'm like, I'm gonna see what happens. And I just stopped using it. I'm like, you can't smell it. I guess if you be as clean as possible, we can talk totally, but the tacky part you have to get used to because if you're used to any punishment, that dry feeling it's going to change but then for sure, just like anything. Give it time.
[01:08:42] Chad: That's it. Your body will accommodate?
[01:08:45] Meghan Kinsey: Your body wants to be healthy if you give it half a chance, that's true. You knows what to do, it's so freakin smart. It's very smart. So, you too.
[01:08:58] Chad: Nick, I just ride his coattails. I just let him do the talk and don't stare. That's our Mo. So Nick's like, he does like all the research based stuff. And then I'm just like, so basically, what Nick just said is 10 just complete fucking bullshit. You don't really have arthritis. So I break it down into layman's terms, when they could just like, “Wow, the research here says this”, and that says that and I'm like, I love it.
[01:09:22] Nick: I just gotta mention the research because then other will be like, well, where's the research? And that's everyone's complaint. Even though research only gives you a part of the story, but everyone just wants to hear the research.
[01:09:34] Meghan Kinsey: You still got to test it on yourself.
[01:09:36] Chad: Totally 1,000%. Anything else going on at motivate that we should know about?
[01:09:44] Meghan Kinsey: We're launching back to that community part. We'll launch like a social calendar. So you can go from bar to bar from core to coffee, if it's in the morning. I love alliterations. So we'll do that so we could kind of I'm hoping to get back into in regards to community peace. I love when we can give back to the community as a community. So we used to go to our neighbor's table and serve dinner you sponsor the night, you guys should.
[01:10:15] Chad: So we've got an open house coming up next month and we're one of the big things we're doing is we're getting a dunk tank, and you have to pay to dunk us. So all the patients can get their revenge back on us. For all those hateful times. That's gonna be ice water, wants to make it hold water. But all of our donations are going to go to a local.
[01:10:36] Nick: Chad, will be cold water. Mine will be hot water. It's not like the heat. So he'll have the ice water. I'll have the hot tub that I'm falling into.
[01:10:44] Chad: He is like “No, it's so cool”. And then the second time I look over, he'll be like dumping buckets of ice in there. You'll see to get plenty of ice. It's gonna have fun.
[01:10:53] Meghan Kinsey: So I'm hoping to round all that stuff back out.
[01:10:56] Chad: We’ll do that with you guys. That would be great. We could do to get them be awesome. Let's do it. Let's hope this is good. This is good. We're getting connected. We're connected.
[01:11:15] Meghan Kinsey: A circle of love.
[01:11:16] Chad: Nobody can see it. That's too bad.
[01:11:17] Nick: It’s more like a triangle.
[01:11:19] Chad: Definitely not a circle.
[01:11:24] Meghan Kinsey: I Love you squeezes.
[01:11:29] Chad: I want to kiss you anymore.
[01:11:32] Meghan Kinsey: I do. I still do. We still see each other every night
[01:11:39] Chad: You got that and you were freaked out? You actually told us before you told my husband. You were like, I don't know what I'm gonna tell him. I was like, “Well, I don't know”. You're not gonna be able to get a tattoo fresh out of the shop. She came right to us.
[01:11:56] Meghan Kinsey: I think I forget how connected we all are.
[01:11:58] Chad: I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I felt honored to know that she got a tattoo before she did.
[01:12:08] Meghan Kinsey: Well, my next one, and then I know you have your whole sleeve scheduled. We'll keep going. I swore I wasn't gonna get another one. I just keep on. My eldest has his next his first one picked out but he's got to go off to Norwich. So I'm like, you're gonna be rocking in the water. Like you cannot do it. Now you need to get time to heal. That can be scary. So I think Thanksgiving off, we'll schedule it now.
[01:12:32] Chad: Schedule it now, then we lock it in. That's awesome.
[01:12:36] Meghan Kinsey: I enjoy myself gentlemen.
[01:12:38] Chad: I did too. We had fun. We had a good podcast today. We had some last made fun of each other. See, I told you nobody was saying.
[01:12:43] Nick: Oh, you guys just made fun of me here.
[01:12:44] Chad: I got made fun of a little bit too. Not as deep. So Megan, how can our listeners find out a little bit more about “Motivate”? Is there a way they can look you guys up?
[01:13:02] Meghan Kinsey: Yes, sir. They can go to motivatebarre.com and “Barre” spelled B-A-R-R-E for those who are not familiar with it, that's our website. And you can click into the upper left hand corner of the menu or menu will also kind of give you a drop down option for coaching. If that's what you're interested in. Our schedule is there, we are fully online and paperless. So you click in you pick the class you want to take, and you process everything right there. And with that said, people are kind of like timid and I get it. I have so many people calling me it's, it's more than ever, where either they've let themselves go because they've just kind of , been in the majority of people who have done so in the past year and a half, or whatever. Like I've got clients who come back from surgeries who are working through PT, we want to meet you again where you are. So if it means meeting at the studio first I can give you a look. See, just to become familiar with the space. If you want to talk I can zoom with your phone with you. Anything you need, just to get you to just do it in the words of Nike. So reach out my 508-574-8095.
[01:14:13] Chad: That's like a Jenny Craig commercial, and for all of you that are social media bucks what's where can they find you on social media?
[01:14:22] Meghan Kinsey: So “Motivate” his on Facebook, it's MotivateBarre, and I believe MotivateBarreCardioNutrition on Instagram.
[01:14:32] Chad: So check it out on the gram, you can see what they're all about. So what's next?
[01:14:38] Nick: Next we're talking about ice. Everyone was asked us should we ice this? We're gonna we're gonna talk about that next so stay tuned a new way.
[01:14:48] Chad: We'll talk about ice. You're gonna get a taste next episode is what we do with at the end of every podcast we always have a moral to a story and sometimes I have the moral the story before this time I didn't know where it was gonna go. So I picked it out as we were doing it. So the moral of the story is, is I'm going to start practicing some meditation tips. So I think if anything I've gotten out of this, I probably have to let my mind go. So for all of you, listeners that are out there, “Let your mind go. Just don't forget to bring it back”.
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